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Post by mcgonagallrocks on Apr 13, 2006 14:56:44 GMT -5
I've been reading more AD/MM fics (what else do I do ) in some of them Minerva is a pure blood some she's a muggle born. I was wondering what everyone else thought.
[glow=red,2,300]**Endora[/glow]
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Post by EloquentPhoenix on Apr 13, 2006 15:35:34 GMT -5
I picked pure-blood as I have always imagined her to come from some really old family.
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Post by zoeteproet on Apr 13, 2006 16:11:06 GMT -5
Yep, I agree with EloquentPhoenix and Nerva. She doesn't know Sherbet Lemons (although I'm a muggle and I don't know them either  And her name is rather...weird. I always believed she came from a very old family, all pure Gryffindors. Although I last read a story where they were all Slytherins... Anyway, I think she is a pure-blood. ;D Love, Sarah xx |
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Post by ismaco on Apr 13, 2006 16:13:27 GMT -5
I don't know why but I'm almost sure she is a pure-blood. I mean, there wouldn't be anything wrong with Minerva being a HB or a muggle born. But I've always imagined the McGonagalls, as EloquentPhoenix says, as a very old magic family...
Isabel
PS. Nerva, I like your theory btw.
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Post by mcgonagallrocks on Apr 13, 2006 17:16:37 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]BTW means 'by the way'.
**Endora
PS
I agree with the idea that she's a pure blood. It just makes the most sense to me. About the whole never having heard of a sherbet lemon I had never heard of one until I read HP, but it makes sense.[/glow]
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Post by ismaco on Apr 13, 2006 20:10:03 GMT -5
Oh... I'm sorry! I use a few English abbreviations at work and I don't even realize when I'm using them when I'm not writing work mail  I like a lot the idea of Slytherin's blood racism being transferred to the castle... I've never thought about it until you mentioned it! Isabel |
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Post by avadagypsy on Apr 13, 2006 20:12:57 GMT -5
I have always thought of minerva as a pureblood. She seems to act as if she was raised in a wizarding world. It just makes sense.
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Post by beMMADfabulous on Apr 14, 2006 7:52:49 GMT -5
I think she's pure blood, too, because of the first book. I think it was lemon drops, however, that she didn't know what they were. Right? Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe that's one of the differences between the U.S. books and the others.
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Post by prodigyviolin101 on Apr 14, 2006 14:08:35 GMT -5
Apparently alone on this one; I think that her mother may have been a wizard and her father possibly not in the picture at all, I kept remembering how hatefully her character talked of people that were accustomed to the idea that anyone who was not a pureblood should be quite frankly terminated. There is no real family history that I can remember about her though...  |
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Post by ismaco on Apr 14, 2006 21:31:06 GMT -5
I have a few more regarding the Castle. But now I would not like to share them. LOL!! Ok... I'll be thrilled if you'd share them with us (or at least with me haha) someday!  Dear, can you enlighten us with the difference between sherbet lemon and lemon drops? Thx!  Isabel |
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Post by littlemorgsi on Apr 14, 2006 22:31:33 GMT -5
Sherbet lemons and lemon drops are the same, but they are the different names for the UK and US versions of the books.
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Post by EloquentPhoenix on Apr 15, 2006 3:11:50 GMT -5
Really? It makes sense and I know lemon drops don't exst in the UK but then why do so many people write about sherbert lemons, unless it's just caught on.
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Post by ismaco on Apr 15, 2006 12:43:08 GMT -5
According with HPL: "In the US version, he calls them "lemon drops," while in the British version it's "sherbet lemons." These are by no means the same thing. In CS we see that the password to his tower office is the name of this candy, again being different between the two editions; but in GF Harry guesses "sherbet lemon" in both editions." I have only the US version... and I would have sworn that in PS Albus called them "Sherbet lemon". I just checked in both books and they actually call them "Lemon drops".  I'm impressed! The only time Harry says "sherbet lemon" is in GoF! ADMM world affects me! Isabel |
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Post by beMMADfabulous on Apr 15, 2006 13:10:34 GMT -5
Wow... I was right? lol In CS where McGonagall gives Harry the password, "lemon drops" is used in the U.S. version instead of "sherbet lemon"? That doesn't make sense to me. Maybe because I've seen the movie so many times. Do sherbet lemons actually exist? |
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Post by EloquentPhoenix on Apr 15, 2006 13:27:31 GMT -5
Yes they do, and they are quite nice actually. Well they exist here anyway.
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Post by EloquentPhoenix on Apr 15, 2006 13:31:29 GMT -5
I thought maybe pictures would help us so I googled both. Sherbet lemons  Lemon drops  As far as I can see they are different, and lemon drops look like plain boiled sweets with sugar whereas sherbet lemons (obviously) have sherbet in the middle. Do sherbet lemons exist in the US, or any place else actually, aside from the UK. |
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Post by beMMADfabulous on Apr 15, 2006 13:31:41 GMT -5
That's cool. I've always thought they were made up for the books. Now I feel sheltered.
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Post by ismaco on Apr 15, 2006 14:22:03 GMT -5
As far as I can see they are different, and lemon drops look like plain boiled sweets with sugar whereas sherbet lemons (obviously) have sherbet in the middle. My grandpa used to buy some candies in the UK called Sour Lemon Drops. They came in a tin box and were plain circular, covered in fine powdered sugar. They were made with solid candy and obviously were not filled with sherbet. I always thought that those candies were the ones that Albus loved but... as you said, the sherbet lemons have sherbet in the middle. Here in México you can buy some candies called "Stuffed toffees" that are candies filled with a thing that must be something like sherbet. There are like a hundred flavors and, among them are the sweet lemon and sour lemon flavored. I've just discovered that THOSE are the candies! . Again, I'm perplex. I also checked in my CS Mexican version and I realized that they translated "Sherbet Lemon" textually to Spanish: "Sorbete de Limón" which means... "Lemon Ice Cream"!! Isabel |
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Post by beMMADfabulous on Apr 15, 2006 14:36:28 GMT -5
Yes, here in the U.S. we tend to think of sherbet as a type of ice cream.
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Post by mcgonagallrocks on Apr 15, 2006 15:58:49 GMT -5
Who knew the question of weather Min was a pure blood or not would lead to this.
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Post by EloquentPhoenix on Apr 15, 2006 16:09:59 GMT -5
In the UK sherbet is a kind of sugar I think. Think. But it's kind of sour/tart. I don't know, I'm not especially fond of it.
It still offers no conclusion as to why the two versions offer different sweets.
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Post by ismaco on Apr 15, 2006 16:26:05 GMT -5
Who knew the question of weather Min was a pure blood or not would lead to this. LOL... that's true It still offers no conclusion as to why the two versions offer different sweets. I guess that will remain as one of the biggest HP mysteries ever! The conclusion here is that if Minerva hadn't heard about either Lemon Drops or Sherbet Lemon... she must be a Pure Blood! Isabel |
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Post by QuillofMinerva on Apr 17, 2006 13:36:15 GMT -5
I have always reguarded Minerva as a pure blood
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Post by TabbyForever on Apr 17, 2006 13:51:02 GMT -5
I've always seen Minas a pure blood. And yes i think her's is an old wizarding family possibly with links back to the founders (She keeps hoping).
Btw I love the name Minerva. I think its a lovely name...better then Lillian any day...damn grandparents!!!Grrr
J. xx
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Post by beMMADfabulous on Apr 17, 2006 14:15:00 GMT -5
Yes, I love the name Minerva as well. When I get a cat, I'm going to name it that (because people would probably think I'd lost it if I named a child Minerva, but oh well).
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Post by mcgonagallrocks on Apr 17, 2006 16:27:02 GMT -5
I named my cats Minerva and Albus the little stinkers that they are. Minerva is a dead ringer for Min's tabby form and Albus is all white.
**Endora
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Post by foci on Apr 25, 2006 14:58:37 GMT -5
Thanks for enlightening me about the difference between sherbet lemons and lemon drops. The bloodline of Minerva certainly makes for interesting plot bunnies, however, based on Minerva's canon PS comments on those Muggles (the Dursleys) I think she is a Pureblood. The idea that she had a Muggle father who either died or left the family has its merits though.
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Post by minnies daughter on May 14, 2006 5:05:22 GMT -5
I totally think Min's a pureblood.
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Post by nemi on May 14, 2006 7:17:38 GMT -5
Pureblood, definitely. I can imagine the McGonagall family to be one of those reeeaaally old lineages, similar to Weasley and Black, only from Scotland.
That and she doesn't know what a sherbet lemon is. *And* her name's Minerva. I did read a non-magical novel in which a girl was called Minerva, but it was an almost royal family, so I believe she comes from a well-known line of wizards that probably played parts in lots of important wizarding affairs.
On the other hand, it's interesting to read stories in which she's Muggle-born.
The name "McGonagall" could go either way, it's just "Minerva", her lack of knowledge of sherbet lemons, and her general air.
It's hard to explain. I can't say she's clued up as so is Hermione, but the way she acted towards the Dursleys suggests she comes from a family of wizards. She refers to them as "Muggles" in a skeptical voice, as in "*Harry Potter* can't grow up with Muggles", and she's obviously acquainted with Muggle-born witches (ie Lily). If she were Muggle-born, she would have less of a bias towards wizards.
Not saying Min has any *disrespect* towards Muggle-borns, but I think she posits the view that a powerful wizard needs to grow up with wizards. A Muggle-born might say that wasn't the case, or have the latter view more so if not completely.
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Post by professortabby on Jun 27, 2006 19:04:02 GMT -5
Merlin... I couldn't have put it better myself! She does seem a bit out of the loop about muggle things.
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