Dumbledore is Definately Dead.

[avadagypsy]

The following is sourced from leakynews.com, reporting from JKR's readings in New York City earlier this evening:

During tonight's RCMH reading, JK Rowling said that Dumbledore is definitely dead, and that we all need to start moving through the five stages of grief. She specifically referenced Dumbledoreisnotdead.com, and said that Dumbleore will not "pull a Gandalf."

(The Web site in question has responded that "we don't think this really means anything!" and "But what if Dumbledore is really dead, but has arranged it so that he can come back? That would still fit with what she said tonight but still not discount any of what's outlined on this site!")

Also of interest were Jo's following comments:

Most of the response followed a question by famous author Salman Rushdie, who stepped forward with his son and flat out asked JKR whether Snape was good or bad. She did not answer, but said that "your opinion is correct," possibly to his assertion that Snae was intrinsically good (though it was unclear).

Other topics included Aunt Petunia, to whom JKR said there was more than meets the eye. She was also asked which of her characters she would like to take to dinner, and at first immediately named Harry, Ron and Hermione - then when naming a fourth, paused and groaned, and said that the problem with doing such was that she already knew who died (presumably in book seven). After a lot of squirming she came up with Dumbledore and Hagrid (the latter seeming like the thought that saved her from revealing something with another answer).

Interesting...

[crystalpheonixeyes]

Wierd. So she says that Dumbeldore is dead. Intersesting, I always thouht so, but I don't know I hoped. O well though. Like many fics protray Snape as good, becasue He was told to kill DUbledore under DD's orders. Weird. I did not think that she would come out and say anything about DD, but I guess that she was getting fed up with the debate.

~~~Jennifer

[EloquentPhoenix]

Nooooo! *Sobs* It's just NOT FAIR! I want to cry all over again now.

So does this:

- Moderator Soledad O'Brien asked the three authors who from their books they'd invite to dinner. Stephen immediately said he'd invite Harry and Hermione.
- While Jo is listing the characters who she'd invite to dinner, she names the trio but then pauses. The crowd begins to shout out other characters, but Jo responds, "I'm the only one who knows who lives through the series," accidentally implying that she could only list characters who make it through the final book. Her final two choices (after realizing what she said) were Dumbledore and Hagrid.

(From Mugglenet)

Imply that none of the trio die, perhaps... Oooohness

I'll just go back to my crying now.

[prodigyviolin101]

How...disheartening!

Still, there is always hope for him to come back!

prodigy

[beMMADfabulous]

Jeez. Now I feel fabulous. However, I shall not let it dishearten me too much! I will still sail this ship. ;D Maybe JK will still reveal that they're married! *still keeps hope*

[avadagypsy]

bemmadfabulous said:

Jeez. Now I feel fabulous. However, I shall not let it dishearten me too much! I will still sail this ship. ;D Maybe JK will still reveal that they're married! *still keeps hope*

hear hear! Just because Dumbledore is dead, does not mean that he did not LOVE while alive We sail our 'ship proudly ;D

[avadagypsy]

eloquentphoenix said:

Nooooo! *Sobs* It's just NOT FAIR! I want to cry all over again now.

So does this:

- Moderator Soledad O'Brien asked the three authors who from their books they'd invite to dinner. Stephen immediately said he'd invite Harry and Hermione.
- While Jo is listing the characters who she'd invite to dinner, she names the trio but then pauses. The crowd begins to shout out other characters, but Jo responds, "I'm the only one who knows who lives through the series," accidentally implying that she could only list characters who make it through the final book. Her final two choices (after realizing what she said) were Dumbledore and Hagrid.

(From Mugglenet)

Imply that none of the trio die, perhaps... Oooohness

I'll just go back to my crying now.

Oh, and re: the trio surviving the series....
This might be a little spoilerish so if you dont wanna know....meh. Dont read.

I'm not sure how many of you listen to The Leaky Cauldron's PodCast "Pottercast" (www.pottercast.com) but if you do you have probably heard this already:

As a part of the promotion of the release of Half Blood Prince in Paperback last week, Leaky's Melissa Anelli along with Emerson Sparz from Mugglenet and Cheryl Klein of Scholastic, undertook a series of podcasts in bookstores throughout the USA.

At the podcast in Naperville, they reported that JKR had actually visited that bookstore before, back in 1998, waaaay before Potter became this huge phenomonen. And the book store owner told Melissa Anelli and co. that someone had asked JKR if the trio would make it through the series, and she said yes.

PLEASE don't take this as gospel, because ONLY Jo knows what is gonna happen, and it is possible that this may be misinformation, or incorrect or that she has changed her mind or whatever....

Just interesting to speculate about, don't you think?

EDIT: you can find instructions for listening to the Scholastic podacasts here: www.scholastic.com/harrypotter/podcasttour

[lemonygingersnaps]

I was in NYC at the event - It was fabulous - even though she said that DD was dead - but I was SO excited! It was great! :-) Well worth teh 2 days off work and plane tickets from atl and a hotel and everything else - wow - JKR is fab & I was also VERY impressed w/ John Irving and Stephen King

[beMMADfabulous]

I wish someone would directly ask JK in an interview about the ADMM relationship...

[avadagypsy]

merry22 said:

I was in NYC at the event - It was fabulous - even though she said that DD was dead - but I was SO excited! It was great! :-) Well worth teh 2 days off work and plane tickets from atl and a hotel and everything else - wow - JKR is fab & I was also VERY impressed w/ John Irving and Stephen King

I am soooo jealous! Australia was just a little bit to far away from NY for me to go though.... I have heard great things about the event though!!! Jo needs to come down to MELBOURNE.

[lemonygingersnaps]

That was the question i submitted - but alas - I was not chosen :-(

[ismaco]

Oh dear.
I've always knew it... but I don't like to hear it from her.... not at all.
I guess hope It's the last thing that dies! (even after Dumbledore haha)

[KSpirit]

Yes, but...
He may be really dead. But we've seen before that events can be undone. This is a theory that I've had for a bit, and haven't seen it shot down yet..soo...

Isn't there a possibility that the Time Turner will make another appearance? It was brought up once in book three, so we'd think theres a chance it will be brought up again at some point. Since DD has shown Harry about it before and how to use it, could he have done that as a preparation for something to come (ie his inevitable death here)? Harry knows how to use the time turner and has the possibility to use it to prevent DD's death (or maybe the battle or some other aspects?)

Keeping with this theory, it all could have happened to show Harry what can be changed the next time- what to prevent, where to be (the invisibility cloak perhaps important- DD warned before how dangerous it is to see yourself if you use a time turner-the cloak could perhaps prevent that from happening?), and who to have around.

It seems like Jo perfectly set the scene for the time turner to be used at some point...

Only a theory, which will probaby easily be shot down

[beMMADfabulous]

KSpirit, that would make a lot of sense. I was just talking to a couple of people yesterday about Harry Potter theories (I love hearing people's theories!), and a guy told me that it's funny how some things that were seemingly important in the earlier books don't seem to be pertinent anymore. I'm thinking that a lot of that stuff will come back in a big way in the last book.

[KSpirit]

Yea I was listening to a few podcasts from the book tours (or smething, I forget!) and I thought about that when they were talking about some stuff.

Also- Jo said DD's family would be a profitable line of inquiry...does that mean his brothers, parents, etc. or can we go on marriage?

[Tabby67]

Well, doesn't Branda feel spanktaculous...

BUT! There is always hope that there was a bit of MMADness before our Bumblebee died. ;D Branda doesn't like dead Bumblebees....

[beMMADfabulous]

kspirit said:

Yea I was listening to a few podcasts from the book tours (or smething, I forget!) and I thought about that when they were talking about some stuff.

Also- Jo said DD's family would be a profitable line of inquiry...does that mean his brothers, parents, etc. or can we go on marriage?

I believe that marriage will play a part because didn't JK say she'd reveal the marriages in the last book? Hmm...

[nicolerose]

guys this is so sad. McGonagall is cry right now. You all can see it... WE'VE ALL READ IT AT LEAVE 100 TIMES! But i never thought that he would acctually be dead. This is so sad! IM CRYING!

[MrCoolio]

Yay, beMMADfabulous oh i hope your right. it would make so much sense. but knowing her, she will be evil and kill off the entire school and it will be that mcgonagall is actually married to snape or something stupid like that.

[beMMADfabulous]

If she's married to Snape.... I think they'll have to put me in an institution... Nah, I'll just ignore it. haha

[mmadlyinlove]

If she says that McGonagall is married to anyone OTHER than Dumbledore, then I'll have a fit. But if she says she's married to Snape.... They'll have to bury me next to Dumbledore. I admit I'll willingly accept his death if I absolutely MUST, but if she says that McGonagall is not married to Dumbledore flat out, then I'll cry.... forever and ever.... ~mmadlyinlove~

[ιady ταвz]

me too.ill have a nervous breakdown on to of that...its so depressing

[pinkie]

Married to Snape! That'll buy me some years on the couch!

I just hope that JK will reveal that Minerva and Albus were long married. JK said Minerva was worthy, but not Dumbledore's equal - I hope she doesn't mean that that excludes them from being married...

There are so many theories on Dumbledore's death - that a Time Turner will be used again, that he will come back as a ghost, that he is actually in hiding... I don't believe any of that.

I have read somewhere there is something with Fawkes and that he is coming back. That I don't understand, but perhaps someone can enlighten me.

What I am looking forward to reading is how Minerva will run the school, how many students will return and the part of Ginny. Being born as the first girl in many generations must mean she is a powerful witch. Are there parallels between Ginny and Minerva? Both in love with wizards who once saved the world from evil?

[beMMADfabulous]

pinkie said:

Married to Snape! That'll buy me some years on the couch!

lol! Same here.

[childminerva]

I was listening to pottercast and someone there said that they felt that having his portrait appear was proof that he had died. I justthink his character is too much like that of Gandalf or Aslan (both of whom died then returned) to be gone completely. My dad is still convinced he's not really dead.

[ιady ταвz]

hmm...yea...its true...he hopefully will return spontaneously

[mmadlyinlove]

I was thinking about when his portrait was just sleeping.... Why would he be sleeping instead of walking around? Dumbledore is not the type to just fall asleep... even if he just died! ~mmadlyinlove~

[beMMADfabulous]

mmadlyinlove said:

I was thinking about when his portrait was just sleeping.... Why would he be sleeping instead of walking around? Dumbledore is not the type to just fall asleep... even if he just died! ~mmadlyinlove~

I was wondering that too.. Hmm.

[childminerva]

Maybe all dead headmasters/headmistresses have sleeping portraits until their bodies are buried. Just an idea.

[ιady ταвz]

hmmm...wasnt he buried?