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Post by mcgonagallrocks on Nov 26, 2006 16:26:13 GMT -5
I'm not the biggest fan of TR/MM stories but it just hit me while I was watching CoS. The Dark Lord and Min couldn't have been in the same year at Hogwarts. He would only have been about 69 in book 2 and she would already have been at least 72. Because he said he was in his 5th year 50 years before the Chamber was opened the second time. So he would have been 65 and add 4 years so he would be 69 in book 5 and Min getting close to 76 or so.
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Post by childminerva on Nov 26, 2006 16:33:46 GMT -5
yeah I know...you have to wonder what she thought of him in school.
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Post by EloquentPhoenix on Nov 26, 2006 17:21:00 GMT -5
If it's 7 years apart wouldn't she have been a Gryffindor 7th year and he a Slytherin 1st year if their schooling clashed at all. It's doubtful to me that she would have known who he was.
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Post by ιady ταвz on Nov 26, 2006 18:27:49 GMT -5
but isnt she 70 in book 5? that would make her to have been 67 in book 2, and 50 years earlier she would have been 17, in her 6th year, and he in his fifth...im confused
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Post by JKMcGonagall on Nov 26, 2006 18:35:34 GMT -5
You really don't have to speculate on their ages and whether Minerva and Tom Riddle went to school together or not. All you have to do is go to the Lexicon's time line and narrow your search to Minerva McGonagall and Voldemort to find out that they did indeed go to school together and probably knew each other. How well they knew each other, romatically or not, now that is speculation.
According to the Lexicon, these are the facts:
Minerva McGonagall was born October 4, 1925 (according to JKR).
She attended Hogwarts from September 1937 to June 1944 and was sorted into Gryffindor. (We know that because Jo has stated that the Heads of House were members of the House they head.)
Tom Marvolo Riddle was born December 31, 1926 (JKR's date).
He attended Hogwarts from September 1938 to June 1945 and was, of course, sorted into Slytherin.
There was only one year of age and schooling between them. There is a really good chance that they knew each other. Now whether they associated with each other is not known. If Minerva is a pureblood (many people seem to think so) it is entirely possible that TMR might have sought her out, as he did so many of the purebloods that were there during his time at Hogwarts.
I am certainly not saying that they were together in any way, I am just saying it is possible due to their ages and years in school. You have to take into consideration too, that she is a Gryffindor and he is a Slytherin, and those two houses mix like oil and water.
The dates fit well because TMR said, in the Chamber of Secrets, that he was sixteen years old when the Chamber was opened by him while he was at Hogwarts. If you subtract 1926 from 1992 (When the Chamber was opened again) you get 66 years. If you subtract the 50 years since the Chamber was first opened you get 16, the age Tom told Harry he was when he preserved his sixteen year old self in the diary. He would have been in his fifth year (first year as a prefect) and Minerva in her sixth year. Most likely, she was also a prefect, so it is almost certain they would have had some interaction at Hogwarts together.
At the end of Harry's sixth year, Minerva would be 72 years old and TMR would be 71 years old.
Kay
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Post by childminerva on Nov 26, 2006 18:41:45 GMT -5
I don't really think they were romantically involved (though there is some good fanfiction written about that) but I do think Minerva might be able to help Harry in some way in book 7 becasue I'm sure she did at least know him at school. I'm sure she was well known around the school for quidditch/academics and we know that Voldie was popular and well known. I'm sure they had some interaction at school.
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Post by ιady ταвz on Nov 26, 2006 18:52:11 GMT -5
i just said what JKMcGonagall said, that there is 1 year difference...
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Post by mcgonagallrocks on Nov 26, 2006 22:03:21 GMT -5
I screwed up lol my math was really bad but I still can't see them talking or being romanticaly invloved not that I'm not open to it under certin curmctances I mean she almost had a kid by him in my favorite fic. I've never been good at math and i got her birthdate wrong *opps*. But the point is I can't see them dating or really talking. I mean she was a Gryffindor and he was a Slytherin
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Post by ιady ταвz on Nov 26, 2006 22:35:50 GMT -5
naah..i dont see them together either...just went to skool during the same time
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Post by pinkie on Nov 27, 2006 3:24:50 GMT -5
I'd say Minerva has better taste than that!
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Post by ιady ταвz on Nov 27, 2006 20:14:38 GMT -5
uh huh! totally
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Post by MinnieQuill on Nov 27, 2006 23:07:29 GMT -5
Aha! this post is excellent for me as it completely fits with my current (well one of my current) fics - I didn't bother with the mathematics so its great to know my stab in the dark worked out!
And I put TR and MM together in one of my fics (Ruins) - I'm told it works. *shrugs*
But it 'Here Where I Stand at the turning of the Years' he's completely evil *smiles*
Minniequill
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Post by ιady ταвz on Nov 28, 2006 21:12:12 GMT -5
wow..i just cant see them together
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Post by StormAngel on Nov 28, 2006 21:31:26 GMT -5
.... Can't see them being together... Its weird...
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Post by ιady ταвz on Nov 28, 2006 21:35:25 GMT -5
so is....!ewwww!!!!!
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Post by childminerva on Nov 28, 2006 22:08:44 GMT -5
I don't think they were, but he was well liked in school and very smart as I'm sure she was so they might have made a good pair. Remember, he didn't pull too much crap at Hogwarts as a student.
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Post by ιady ταвz on Nov 28, 2006 22:20:59 GMT -5
and neither did she
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Post by misshoneychurch88 on Nov 28, 2006 22:22:39 GMT -5
I don't really like them together, but I think it makes a really good story. Theres just some much angst there it makes me giggle
...anyone who can explain that will get a cookie...or something
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Post by MinnieQuill on Nov 28, 2006 23:29:42 GMT -5
angst = giggling. Hmmm? I've never heard of that before! lol
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Post by misshoneychurch88 on Nov 28, 2006 23:47:00 GMT -5
I'm special that way  |
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Post by childminerva on Nov 29, 2006 15:46:10 GMT -5
I get the angsty giggle thing...I'm an angst writer at heart  |
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Post by misshoneychurch88 on Nov 29, 2006 17:13:47 GMT -5
WOOO Im not alone. It's always nice to have a partner in ones craziness
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Post by childminerva on Nov 29, 2006 17:15:41 GMT -5
yeah...I'm here if you ever need an fellow happy angster (if that makes sense)
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Post by misshoneychurch88 on Nov 29, 2006 22:05:26 GMT -5
I get it, don't worry we should start a club ...ok maybe not |
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Post by mcgonagallrocks on Nov 29, 2006 22:12:53 GMT -5
If I do run into a TR/MM fic I just say she was stupid and hadn't discovered Albus yet.
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Post by StormAngel on Nov 29, 2006 22:14:18 GMT -5
lol... me too... ~~
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Post by misshoneychurch88 on Nov 29, 2006 23:55:03 GMT -5
that does work pretty well, being the truth and all
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Post by ιady ταвz on Nov 30, 2006 18:31:37 GMT -5
uh huh...i have to agree that it makes a good fic though
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Post by misshoneychurch88 on Nov 30, 2006 18:35:57 GMT -5
and thats what counts, seeing as none of us will be writing the 7th book  so have fun with the angst |
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Post by ιady ταвz on Nov 30, 2006 18:37:33 GMT -5
yup...de angst is good
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so have fun with the angst