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Post by angharad on Oct 18, 2004 12:12:30 GMT -5
My story "Subtle Communication" was rejected by the Sugar Quill, but the form letter I received didn't explain the reason for the rejection. So, I wrote a note to Zsenya, the Headmistress, and this (in part) is the response I received:
"Your story was turned away as a "first cut" based on the relationship pairing. The Beta-Review team does not feel that Albus/Minerva could conceivably be considered canon. We do have one AD/MM story posted at the Sugar Quill from about two years ago, and it received quite a flurry of complaints, etc. We understand that you may have found a creative way in your story to make this work, but we did not look at the file, so your rejection was no comment on your writing. "
I was submitting as a new author, so I don't know what their policy is for authors already on their archive. I'm just letting y'all know that this is where The Sugar Quill stands on the subject of AD/MM for new authors. I am drafting an exceedingly polite response right now, suggesting that if they don't believe that AD/MM is canon, then perhaps they should include that in the list of off-limits pairings in their mission statement, or in their submission guidelines. I wasted valuable time on my submission believing that AD/MM would be acceptable there, based on the fact that Jestana has been there for years, and based on the aforesaid misson statement and submission guidelines. I'm a firm believer in having all the information available, so that folks can make informed decisions.
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Post by max on Oct 18, 2004 13:20:36 GMT -5
I've already said my say in your lj, but I repeat it here: I think their idea about "canon" is questionable. And if AD/MM isn't "canon" then I'd really like to know which pairing they'd find acceptable.
I really can't think of another as Molly/Arthur, Narcissa/Lucius, Petunia/Vernon and Filch/Mrs Norris.
Max
shaking her head
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Post by Sensiblyquirky on Oct 18, 2004 13:30:08 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but what do they consider canon? If they take any Draco/Hermione, or Draco/Ginny, or Hermione/Severus, or even (gasp) Harry/Hermione, it's pretty obvious to me which of the boys HG is for, then they need to step back and re-evaluate their premises.
I'm sorry your story got rejected, I liked that one a lot.
Christy
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Post by ginger newts on Oct 18, 2004 14:06:39 GMT -5
Well that would explain why I never found any stories there to read. (I only read AD/MM) I agree with everyone else, they must either have a very narrow definition of what's canon or else a very skewed one. There really aren't many couples that can be considered completely factually by the book canon at this point except as Max said the obviously married ones, but that would get very boring very quickly. Most HP fan fic is about one ship or another and I know I've seen Harry/Ginny and Harry/Hermione at the SQ, but we don't know if either of those is canon and they both can't be. I wish people could see past the whole age and teacher status and recognize the (to me) fairly obvious subtext for AD/MM. Anyway, I'm sorry your story got rejected, that's a good one, one of the first AD/MM fics I ever read actually (I just discovered fan fic late this summer). I've never liked The Sugar Quill very much, the archives are hard to navagate and I wasted hours looking for AD/MM fics on more than one occasion, so now this is just more reason to dislike it. Thanks for the heads up.
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Post by Alexannah on Apr 7, 2006 14:14:19 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing that information, I realized without submitting anything that the SQ were very selective. It's unfortunate for me; it was the first fanfic site I came across and I wanted to have at least something there, as a sort of sentimental thing, but all of my fics have at least an AD/MM element, even if it's not the main storyline. On this note, I'd like to warn people of trying to post AD/MM to PhoenixSong as well. I got my fic rejected because it was AD/MM just today. They say in the story submission guidelines that they only accept ships that don't contradict canon, and I was v. confused, hurt and rather hacked off when they rejected my fic. I think they should be more specific if they don't accept AD/MM. Personally I don't believe it does contradict canon, and they're just too selective. After all, JKR has said that she'll reveal who's married to who in book 7, and as it for obvious reasons can't be the students, it makes sense for the married pair(s) to be teachers. Yeah, PS and SQ are not open-minded enough. In the SQ forums I asked if they'd accept a fic where Albus is Harry's grandfather, and got a rather dissapointing (not to mention vague) response. It was: No.
*shrugs*Can anyone shed some light on whether this means a definate NO, or that the replier didn't know? (Thread at www.sugarquill.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=7496&st=10) I'm preparing (polite but firm) responses to both right now. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I could say? Off-topic P.S: ginger newts, I love your avatar and text. It just about sums up my views. |
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Post by Alexannah on Apr 7, 2006 14:21:14 GMT -5
I've already said my say in your lj, but I repeat it here: I think their idea about "canon" is questionable. And if AD/MM isn't "canon" then I'd really like to know which pairing they'd find acceptable. Well, everyone knows the lines between canon and non-canon are very blurry. It's the way JKR writes. So-called 'canon' sites really need to be specific; it's all very well saying, "We only accept canon", but you can only do that when you know what canon is. Just look at the ending of HBP; there are so many different theories that are neither confirmed nor denied. Yet they can't all be canon. Where do you draw the line? Sorry about posting twice *smacks hand* but I didn't think of quoting till after I'd posted, and I can't figure out how to quote without using a new reply |
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Post by nemi on Apr 9, 2006 6:56:38 GMT -5
From dictionary.com:
" Main Entry: fan fiction
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: a fictional account written by a fan of a show, movie, book, or video game to explore themes and ideas that will not or cannot be explored via the originating medium; also written fan fiction, also called fanfic
Etymology: 1944 "
Perhaps they should say in their mission statement that their "non-contradictory" policy contradicts the definition of fanfiction and the principle of writing it.
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Post by Alexannah on Apr 9, 2006 7:38:50 GMT -5
Ooh, that's a very good one! Maybe I should send SQ and PS a link to this topic ...
I've been a very bad girl *smacks hand again* and, yes, I've sent a link ... *gulp* Just hope I don't get kicked off their forums. I would have done it anonymously, but I'm not a coward.
Plus you had to sign in to post. Ack.
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Post by ismaco on Apr 15, 2006 19:21:23 GMT -5
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Post by beMMADfabulous on Apr 15, 2006 19:57:12 GMT -5
A little OT, (this is refering to what Alexannah said) JK has said she'll reveal who's married to who in book 7?   I haven't heard this!!! *cries* I may die if McGonagall or Dumbledore is married to someone else! |
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Post by nemi on Apr 24, 2006 4:52:26 GMT -5
I know! What scares me is the fact that the Lexicon says that the trophy by Harry's father's in the cabinet in one of the films, the one that said "M. G. McGonagall" was dated in the 1970s! I know it's not actually canon 'cause it's in the film but it's really unnerved me since I read it a few days ago, if it's a descendent of Min and McGonagall isn't her maiden name I'll be mortified  Hopefully there's the possibility that their children took Min's name to avoid Voldemort targeting them. *crosses fingers* |
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Post by beMMADfabulous on Apr 24, 2006 15:52:29 GMT -5
I read saw that on the movie about M.G. McGonagall, but I just assumed it was her they were talking about. Maybe it was an anacronism (something mistakenly placed in the wrong time period, not to be confused with an acronym) or something?
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Post by nemi on Apr 28, 2006 11:49:08 GMT -5
I do hope so..
Say it is an anacronism, and Min played Quidditch, what position do you suppose she played? I wrote her into a story as a beater. It seemed right.
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Post by Apocalypticat on May 4, 2006 12:05:55 GMT -5
I got extremely irritated just reading that SQ thread. Perhaps I'm just really opinionated, but I thought the whole point of fanfiction was to - as nemi's definition post confirms - 'explore themes and ideas that will not or cannot be explored via the originating medium.' I can see that SQ was aiming to separate the vaguely realistic from the completely off-the-wall, but honestly.
I also wonder what they made of Remus/Tonks stories before HBP.
*Sighs, and walks off to calm down, having been already annoyed by an unrelated matter*
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I haven't heard this!!! *cries* I may die if McGonagall or Dumbledore is married to someone else!
