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Post by tanja on Jul 27, 2005 0:34:27 GMT -5
So that are the "missing scenes" from ff.net? right, they are sooooo sad, but lovely and informing at the same time
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Post by Alesia on Jul 27, 2005 6:48:38 GMT -5
Interesting take on Severus and Diana. So in this version is Brianna Severus's child?
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Post by foci on Aug 1, 2005 15:46:50 GMT -5
Tanja: No, they aren't really missing scenes. In the ffnet version, Severus is involved with Hoochie and Allegra and had never ever any second thought about Diana as a woman and a possible love interest. Meanwhile, in this version, here on the proboards, he was never involved with Hoochie and won't be involved with Allegra. He is in love with Diana and we'll follow his relationship with her. Confusing, eh? I knew I should have waited with posting this, especially as people are very keen on inventing methods to murder Severus to avenge Albus' death... but the Sev/Diana scenes were so easy to write and are much more clear and frank that I couldn't wait any longer.
Alesia: Good question. It will be answered in ... I lost track of chapters myself, but it will be answered somewhere in Part II at the latest.
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Post by Jaya on Aug 1, 2005 18:55:14 GMT -5
Woohoo!
I love this story on fanfic.net and I'm loving it here too! I always knew there was something going on between Diana and Severus!
Jaya ;D
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Post by tanja on Aug 2, 2005 7:32:28 GMT -5
@foci: I see, so it´s just another version of the story...Whichone is the "true" one and will be continued?? or are you going so write more about every story-version?? Confusing...*g* but GOOD !!
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Post by foci on Aug 2, 2005 15:01:59 GMT -5
Tanja: No, I won't write more versions of FL or A busy night. LOL Both versions of FL will be continued and finished. The ffnet version of FL has to be typed only (I typed so much today that my fingers are completely numb) and there is one scene of the proboards version that I haven't written yet (obviously a Snape/Diana scene). As I am completely unable to decide which one is the better, the decision will lie in the able hands of my readers. If I indeed plan to try to get this published on Infinite Incantatem or any other site I ought to pick a version, right? I'll post the next chapters here tonight, the two version should be finished about the same time and I'll simply ask you to pick one.
Alesia: I changed my mind, I'll answer your question. Brianna is NOT Severus' child in this version either. Otherwise the whole row about the Contraceptive Charm would be pointless.
Jaya: I'm so glad you found this. The people who begged me for it are nowhere to be seen though... funny...
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Post by rogueinker on Aug 3, 2005 10:00:24 GMT -5
Foci, loved this version. I had the story on my PDA and it got me through a turbulence plagued trip. When I read the original (sorry, don't remember if I reviewed or not - I'm hopeless at that) I did get the impression that there was more to the Diana and Severus connection. Well done.
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Post by Jaya on Aug 3, 2005 11:46:59 GMT -5
I am enjoying this version just as much as the fanfic.net one... perhaps even more... I always thought that Diana and Severus would make a great couple...
Can't wait to read more on both ends... you know how much this story means to me...
Jaya ;D
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Post by foci on Aug 4, 2005 18:15:43 GMT -5
rogueinker: You have no idea what your comment means to me! I didn't know you were reading and am totally over the moon that you liked it. As my beta, mugglemin put it once, "Reviews from the writers we respect are worth their weight in gold." At the moment I feel very rich. Jaya: I thank you so much for commenting several times here, it means so much to me! I LOVE to write this version, Severus and Diana have the luxury of being very straightforward and outspoken with each other and I tremendously enjoy that I can have them saying and doing things to each other Albus and Minerva would never do. Plus, any feedback I get on it is a balm for my soul after HBP. I finished re-writing and typing Chapters 10-14 of this version and chapter 25 of the ffnet version is already in mugglemin's mailbox, but we are all in the hands of the Chinese Internet gurus, who apparently shut down the net at the most inconvenient moments, making it impossible for my wonderful beta to read my stuff. Of course, Diana is my favourite DD kid now, poor Nicholas has to be content with a second place.
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Post by Mellypoo622 on Aug 8, 2005 22:08:26 GMT -5
I'm so glad youre rewritting this with severus/diana in it! I really wanted them to be a couple when I first read it! You're doing an excellent job!
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Post by foci on Aug 19, 2005 15:03:56 GMT -5
I'm still working on Chapters 15-19 of this version, I have a lot of ideas and plenty of notes but I need more time to figure out what and how I want to write. My inspiration seems to come and go at its own will, and these days it's mostly gone. So other than you should have Chapter 14 in a couple of days (I still have heavy grammar issues with it) I can't and won't promise anything. Thanks for everyone who reviewed here or on ffnet, you are the best!
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Post by tanja on Aug 21, 2005 12:45:04 GMT -5
I like the "overworked" version, although I have been loving the old one already...This story gets better and better tirh every written line... Are you going to update the "beginning chapters" , too ? Or will you take a break with those??
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Post by foci on Aug 21, 2005 14:32:02 GMT -5
Hi Tanja,
Thank you so much for stopping by. The good news is that in the meantime I made up the whole history of Sev and Di, which would probably function as stand alone fic too... The bad news is that I'm trying to cram it all together into Foretold Love and facing huges difficulties. Precisely, because in PART III, neither Severus nor Diana are alive, I have Chapters 15-18 and Chapter 28 and the epilogue to add the extra scenes into, so the "beginning chapters" will remain the same. I really did think up everything for them from the moment on they met, how they became friends, how they hooked up, how Brianna handled things to their most recent problems that were featured in Chapters 3 and 10. There is so much more that I'd like to add but I have to be careful not to steal the spotlight from the ADMM plotline... Gosh, editing can be a nightmare! And it's not the best way to write a fic when you've got second thoughts about every line...like "sure it's interesting to describe their first kiss, but do I really need this plotwise?" aargh... it's awful! Anyhow, I should add Chapter 14 in a few days time... then I'll probably have to complete Chapters 15-18 at once, or else I'll be in so much trouble if I mess up things... I know what I want to do in the altered epilogue though so that should be a piece of cake to write. I'm honestly beginning to think that I should write a fic separately for Sev and Di...but I'm fed up with depressed Snape fics so I'm not itching to write one...plus, I'll be writing my thesis from September on which means zero time for fanfic writing... (sighs)
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Post by Jaya on Aug 21, 2005 20:42:18 GMT -5
I've got to say that I really am enjoying this version just as much as the other one.... I like Severus and Diana together... Diana seems to be a good combination of both parents...
Can't wait to read more!!!!!
Jaya ;D
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Post by foci on Sept 11, 2005 11:12:25 GMT -5
Jaya, thank you for the review! Yes, I imagined Diana just like you described her, but she inherited some not-so-wonderful traits too. The whole back story didn't fit FL, so (as I already said on my ffnet profile) besides weaving in as many scenes in this version, as I can, I'll put up the rest of the Sev/Di scenes as a stand-alone fic on ffnet. I know this is confusing, but last time I checked this was an ADMM board. I'll post now Chapters 14 and 15. Chapter 14 got through 3 betaing rounds, I really wanted to wait until the last confusing line was clarified before posting. Quality has to be more important than a quick update.
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Post by Jaya on Sept 11, 2005 12:04:08 GMT -5
What a great Diana and Severus addition!
I've hoped for this pairing since I started the other version of your story and this is a GREAT chapter!!!!
Looking forward to more!
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Post by Jaya on Sept 18, 2005 20:25:44 GMT -5
As usual... I love the update! I think that Albus was completely believable... I'm glad to see that he still remembers his previous family... his children... and I love the Sev/Di pairing!
Keep going!
J
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Post by foci on Oct 17, 2005 14:07:57 GMT -5
Hm. I'm generally with Minerva on divination and stuff... but I was bored with research and entered Severus and Diana's imaginery birth datas (Severus' canon one, of course) on a free horoscope site and got a partner analysis for them. I got the shock of my life when reading it, it described in length the problems I gave them in Foretold Love and there wasn't a paragraph that didn't fit to their relationship and problems! I'll look up how I can copy here the analysis without stepping on more rights than we already do when writing fanfiction etc.
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Post by foci too busy to sign in on Oct 27, 2005 16:08:25 GMT -5
Just wanted to let you know that I'll try to copy that horoscope thingy next week, when we have holiday (meaning that I can settle done and start writing...don't hold your breath...my thesis). I plan to finish posting Bittersweet on ffnet first though, so it'll be probably 2006 when I'll post the epilogue.
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Post by foci too busy to sign in on Oct 27, 2005 16:09:56 GMT -5
settle down, I meant to say. Sorry, being tired.
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Post by foci on Oct 31, 2005 16:40:43 GMT -5
Okay, here it goes. I hope I'm not infringing any more copyrights than usual.
Below, you can read parts of the horoscope a free site produced for Severus and Diana. I took the liberty to put into italics the lines that are especially fitting (there are quite a few of them).
Read on.
This is a relationship that involves the growth of consciousness. Often a relationship under these signs between the sexes may tend to become platonic. You will be interested in the sharing of ideas and communication. The only possible defect of this placement is that the relationship is likely to be more intellectual than emotional.
This sign is capable of bringing about much good or much difficulty, particularly in a love relationship. With this aspect, there may be tremendous polarity, which results in either-or situations that can cause great tension. On the other hand, this aspect can bring together two radically different elements of your lives and make a higher and more dynamic entity of the two of you. In a love relationship, you can expect this aspect to generate a lot of energy. You will be tremendously attracted to each other, but you will not feel entirely at ease, because there is a tremendous energy imbalance between you.
The conjunction signifies that there will be a great deal of mental activity in this relationship. This aspect is good for verbal communication between you. You both should be wary of the tendency to intellectualize your emotions rather than deal with them at the gut level. You have an unusual similarity of thinking, or at least a better than average ability to understand each other's thinking. (Legilimency, anyone?)
You like to be continually exposed to new ideas and experiences together. One of the most positive attributes of this aspect is the ability to be detached from what you are discussing. Because of this detachment you may even be able to talk about your relationship and arrive at understandings that will help you both to get more out of it.
This is a very energetic combination. This relationship will arouse strong energies within you, energies that can be used for getting a great deal of work done or for making changes within yourselves. You will have many discussions - about your relationship or other subjects that will border on or actually be fights. Do not suppress your legitimate angers and complaints because of a misplaced desire for peace and quiet. This relationship can grow through creative conflict. If you do suppress your anger or express it indirectly, the relationship could or turn into an endless stream of arguments. You should take part in vigorous physical activity together whenever possible. In a business or professional relationship this aspect can be an indicator that you will accomplish much with dynamic vigor. But if the energy between you is very strong, it can indicate disputes, disagreements, as well as destructive ego competition.
This relationship is based largely on feelings. When you are together, you think about yourselves more subjectively and are more influenced by your emotions. But at the same time it may be difficult to discuss things rationally and objectively when you have to. You may talk quite a bit about your collective feelings, which obviously is good in a personal relationship if you keep your sense of perspective and don't overdo it.
The challenge for your relationship is to learn to balance rational communication with communication of feelings. If the relationship is allowed to follow its natural tendencies, you will probably find it difficult to bring the two kinds of communication together. Usually a discussion will be a very emotional experience with a good deal of sound and fury and not much true communication. You must learn to make the discussion useful for understanding as well as for letting off steam. Nevertheless, it is possible to bring about a balance, so that real feelings can be communicated clearly and objectively. But you both will have to learn to look at things in a new and different way by standing outside of your involvement and seeing your partner's position.
This opposition can be a very explosive aspect in a composite chart. It is an indication of anger and hostility breaking out, which can transform any kind of relationship into open warfare. One certainty is that you will never have to worry about repressing your feelings when you ought to express them. The problem is to make the expression creative, so that it can help the two of you grow, instead of just being a destructive outburst. When difficulties arise, try to keep calm for a little while and make some kind of rational sense out of what is happening. When people with this combination do blow up, it's all over very quickly, because all the negative energy is expended. But because the energies arise so often, quite a bit of damage occurs anyway. Expressing your real feelings honestly is essential with this aspect. Simply try to keep it under control.
In a love relationship, the expression of love will be quite intense, with a powerful quality that will transform both of you in some fundamental way. Your love will not be light and gay but something very serious that involves both of you at all levels of mind, body, and soul. On quite a different level, this can also refer to joint finances and property, it promises material prosperity with this relationship.
This aspect can have a number of effects, most of which are quite difficult to deal with. First of all, it implies that something is preventing this from being a true relationship between equals. (Sev being a DE and Diana being Dumbledore's daughter?) It is very often the case that one of you has entered the relationship with the idea of sacrificing yourself in order to "help" the other. But there is a very subtle kind of egotism operating here under the disguise of self-sacrifice. Sometimes this symbolism takes the form of one of the persons being an alcoholic or having some other type of psychological disorder which requires much attention and so- called sacrifice from the other. At other times the effect of this aspect is simply to make a relationship very unrealistic. Instead of dealing with your real personalities, you impose this image on each other. It may also be that you are quite realistic about each other, but not terribly realistic as a couple about others outside of your relationship whom you must deal with. (Not realistic as a couple since they are forced to keep it quiet.) This is particularly so with people you consult for advice, such as lawyers, doctors, or counselors. Be quite careful when working with such people, and do not take their advice uncritically.
That's it. I tried to refrain from commenting, but I wasn't always successful. The datas I entered for Diana were: born at 9:30 (AM) on Dec 28 1950, Glasgow, UK. Severus: born at 18:12 (PM obviously) on Jan 9 1960 Newcastle UK.
Have fun!
PS: I also have to submit that the same site characterised Snape with the very same datas as someone who is bound to have many friends, so the above analysis is nothing but a lucky finding.
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Post by blackstar on Jan 16, 2006 8:22:30 GMT -5
I like your fanfiction. It is really good.
Moreover, I’ve understood all the reasons; only I have a problem with the relationship from Albus and Minerva.
Why can’t they cast the Bonding Spell? The prophecy only says what will happen, but it is not the reason.
I dare to say that there love I strong enough, or?
Oh… and your german is very good. (Better than my english. Do you understand, what I had said? I hope…)
Looking forward to the next update.
blackstar
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Post by foci on Jan 16, 2006 13:13:22 GMT -5
blackstar, thank you so much for your review!
Thanks for the compliment on my German as well. Rikki betaread those parts to make sure that I make no mistake. After 13 years of learning and using it I'd hope that it's readable at least. LOL
I have a sort of companion fic to this on ffnet, it's called Bittersweet and I plan to finish that before I post the epilogue here. You can read the epilogue on ffnet as well, although that's the version without Severus and Diana.
If I have confused you even more, feel free to pm me!
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